Comments on: Coach, Trainer, or Manager?

By: Liz Strauss

Liz Strauss — Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:53:35 +0000

Hi Karin,
My apologies! I got slammed this weekend with spammers and I’m guessing that the trackback got eaten by the spam catcher. I went through them, but with the volume I must have missed it.

I’m sorry.

Thank you so much for thinking of doing that.

By: Karin

Karin — Sun, 21 Jan 2007 12:38:47 +0000

Hi Liz

Furhter to these ponderings I wrote about mentors on my blog (tried to track-back to here, but doesn’t seem to work?)
http://www.thekissbusiness.co.uk/2007/01/mentors_ponderi.html

By: Liz Strauss

Liz Strauss — Fri, 19 Jan 2007 13:43:07 +0000

Hi Karen,
Yeah, another level. To me there’s no way that mentoring doesn’t involve some personal relatioship that goes deep and so each mentor relationship is individually defined by the people in it. That’s true of other relationships, but not to such an extreme, I don’t think.

By: Karin

Karin — Fri, 19 Jan 2007 10:48:24 +0000

Hi Liz

I agree. Ultimately a good manager will become a mentor (of sorts) but that’s is indeed a completely different ball-game. More like on another level?

By: Liz Strauss

Liz Strauss — Fri, 19 Jan 2007 00:06:32 +0000

Well, Jeff, That one way to agree!

By: Jeff Brown

Jeff Brown — Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:12:25 +0000

Here frickin’ here!

By: Liz Strauss

Liz Strauss — Thu, 18 Jan 2007 18:43:03 +0000

Hi Karin,
I thought about including a mentor in the list and decided that the relationship there was a different one — one that doesn’t fit withint the group. and I was right it seems.

By: Karin

Karin — Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:55:58 +0000

Hi Liz

Last bit sound like my I hear my mentor (He’s great)

By: Liz Strauss

Liz Strauss — Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:19:15 +0000

Hi Karen,
It’s messy here too this morning and it’s cloudy in my head as well.

I’ve felt the way I describe above for quite a while. Too many folks can hang out their shingle to be a coach. I don’t want to think of myself as needing a coach for my life or my work.

I like the idea of both being and having a professional manager — someone who stays focused on the business and the client’s interests. No one has to care about anyone’s favorite color or candy. It’s about vision, strategy, tactics, responsibility and deliverables.

By: Karin

Karin — Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:14:32 +0000

Hi Liz (very stormy here at the moment)

Interesting take on coach/trainer and like the ‘outcome’ to manager.
Looking forward to the next set of posts on this.

On the personal side: 4 years ago all of a sudden I was a ‘managing director’ (Made my mother very proud ) but still not sure if I got the managing bit right.